Steampunk Style & Studio Space: Interview with Ryan N. Taylor & Richard E. Taylor II
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In this episode, Heather and Jess welcome Ryan N. Taylor and Richard E. Taylor II from IFB Studios, also known as The Steampunk Bros. They discuss their journey from childhood to becoming co-owners of a production studio, the challenges they faced during COVID-19, and their unique branding approach. The conversation highlights the importance of accessibility in the film industry, community engagement, and the balance of multiple roles in a creative business. Ryan and Richard share valuable lessons learned and their aspirations for the future, including upcoming events and initiatives.
About The Steampunk Bros
Ryan N. Taylor
Born October 11th, 1994, was raised in the suburbs of Rancho Cucamonga, California, about 45 minutes East of Los Angeles. Ryan first got his spark for the industry when he started taking acting classes at John Casablancas Acting/Modeling School in Beverly Hills, CA in 2007 where he attended with his older brother Richard. Ryan was given an opportunity to develop his camera, live switch board and directorial skills at the young age of 14 while serving as part of the Multi- Media Ministry at Cathedral of Praise International Ministries, in San Bernardino, CA, where Bishop Craig W. Johnson, Th.D. is the pastor.
Since landing his first leading role in the 2012 released feature film "The Young Believers", Ryan has gone on to star in several commercials for companies like Reebok, Adidas and Six Flags, as well as appear in numerous music videos and films. After graduating from Los Osos High School in Rancho Cucamonga, California, Ryan attended Pasadena City College before transferring to The University of Southern California and earning his bachelor's degree in Cinema & Media Studies. While at USC, Ryan crewed on/ starred in over 20 productions where he found his passion for Assistant Directing.
After graduation, Ryan became a full time freelance Assistant Director, having AD’ed on numerous productions with credits that include "The Last Whistle", on Netflix, "In The Defense Against Tyranny", on Amazon Prime Video and "Fine China" available on HBO. Ryan also interned and worked as a production assistant for "CBS's The Late Late Show with James Corden" from 2017-2020.In addition, he has served as a line producer on multiple short films along with co-producing the 2015 feature length documentary, "Searching For Mentors".
Richard E. Taylor II
Richard was born on “Mother’s Day”, May 13, 1990. He discovered his love for acting at the tender age of four when he was casted in an agricultural commercial for Cal Poly University in Pomona, California. Since his acting debut, Richard has gone on to appear in commercials like Nickelodeon’s “The Big Help” program and on shows like “Glee” and “John Benjamin Has a Van”. Richard has also been featured in movies such as “Eyes to See”, “Thugs the Musical”, and “The Party Boppers”. His more recent appearances can be found in the 2022 released film “Contraband” and the upcoming film “Bolt from The Blue”. Richard has also performed in a host of plays and appeared in music videos with artist, such as, Lenny Kravitz and Mary J. Blige to name a few.
Outside of Acting, Richard earned his bachelor’s degree in psychology at the California State University, San Bernardino. He has more than 10 years of experience working in health services as a behavioral therapist. Richard also served as the office manager for Plan B... Therapy Family Counseling Center for 6 years. While there he was able to grow the practice into a Million-Dollar Business.
Outside of Film, both Richard and Ryan are musicians with Richard studying and playing the piano and trumpet and Ryan, the alto saxophone. Both have performed with their jazz, concert and high school marching bands in junior high and high school. Ryan went on to become a member of USC’s "Spirit of Troy” marching band during his time at the University of Southern California.
About I.F.B. Studios
I.F.B. Studios mission is to provide excellent service and support to our customers beyond their expectations. We are excited to open a new film/production studio that is committed to providing a positive and exciting environment to accommodate all of your production needs.
IFB Studios is located near several major production studios: ABC; Walt Disney Animation Studio, DreamWorks, Universal Studios and Warner Bros. Studios. Along with all of I.F.B. Studio’s own “in-house“ services and supplies, we are centrally located near a variety of equipment, costume and prop rental stores to further assist with all of your production needs.
Takeaways
Starting a business at a young age requires adaptability and openness to change.
Pivoting and being adaptable are crucial skills in the creative industry.
Creating an inclusive, safe, and forward-thinking environment is a priority for I.F.B. Studios.
The desire to go into business was driven by a shared vision and family influence.
Establishing work-life boundaries, such as having a cutoff time, is essential for maintaining balance.
The idea of owning a studio space was inspired by the need for creative freedom and representation.
Embracing the motto "you're never going to feel ready" encourages taking risks and seizing opportunities.
It's okay to fail and test things out; learning from mistakes is part of the journey.
Richard is developing more inclusive spaces to ensure accessibility for everyone.
The importance of evolving and being open to new directions in business and personal growth.
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Heather (00:02)
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Jess (00:03)
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Heather (00:05)
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Jess (00:07)
Switching.
Heather (00:09)
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Heather (00:33)
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Jess (00:37)
We're glad you're here.
Heather (00:41)
hey Jess, how's it going?
Jess (00:42)
Hey
Heather, I'm good, how are you? I'm getting over. Yeah, it is an exciting episode. I'm apologizing to you and the listeners ahead of time because I'm getting over a little cold. So there's the chaos for ya.
Heather (00:45)
I'm excited for today's episode.
I can't hear it that much.
I think you probably feel it more than we can hear it. ⁓
Jess (01:04)
I can hear it.
I can hear it so much. I'm sure, I don't know. I feel like I can hear it, but maybe, maybe you're right.
Heather (01:12)
I think you sound beautiful, but I do want you to feel better.
Jess (01:14)
No.
You're so sweet. You're just so sweet.
Well, who do we have on the pod today? I'm excited.
Heather (01:22)
We
have Ryan and Richard Taylor from IFB Studios. They're also known as the Steampunk Bros, which we explain, we talk about. But Ryan and Richard are brothers. They are co-owners of IFB Studios, which is a production studio space here in Los Angeles. Ryan is a filmmaker. We actually, you know, it's funny. He went to USC. I went to USC. We were there at the same time.
But we didn't meet until after. Somehow we met. We didn't even know each other when we were there. We were in different programs. We were in the same department, but we were in different programs. So we never really connected. But then we worked together after graduation. But Ryan is a first AD, and he's also a filmmaker. And Richard is an actor. And they co-own the studio space together.
Jess (01:53)
Really?
Were you in the same program?
Okay. wow.
Heather (02:18)
They talk about being business owners and starting this business at pretty young or early in their careers, being multi-high-tech.
Jess (02:25)
And also in challenging
times, they started this during COVID, or right before COVID.
Heather (02:29)
Yeah, you guys, started this in like
2019, right into 2020. Crazy. And they talk about pivoting, which we, you know, are big fans of just being open about pivoting and, you know, being adaptable and just they're still, they're still going, you know, with their business, they have a lot of exciting stuff happening, which they talk about opportunities.
⁓ for filmmakers and they're really trying to make just a really inclusive, safe and forward thinking environment for people in this industry. It kind of changed the narrative a little bit, which is pretty cool.
Jess (03:08)
love it. Let's get into it.
Heather (03:10)
Awesome, here we go.
Heather (03:13)
Okay, well welcome Brian and Richard from IFB Studios.
Jess (03:17)
Welcome!
Ryan (03:18)
Hello, hello?
Richard (03:19)
Hello,
hello. Thank you.
Jess (03:20)
Thanks for being here.
Ryan (03:22)
Thanks a lot for having me.
Jess (03:24)
We're so happy to have you guys.
Ryan (03:26)
Oh no, we are super pleased. As soon as we all reached out, we were like, oh my goodness. One, congratulations on this. And then two, thank you so much for choosing to help share a story as well.
Heather (03:26)
Yeah.
Richard (03:38)
Yes.
Heather (03:39)
Yeah, thanks for being here, you guys. So for everyone, can you both individually introduce yourselves just so people can match a name to a voice for those who aren't watching? And yeah, just tell us who you are.
Ryan (03:52)
Yeah
Richard (03:52)
I guess I'm good. I'm Richard. I am actually the older one, even though I look like I'm the younger one. I am an actor. I'm also a behavioral interventionist and also I'm the co-owner here at IFE Studios.
Ryan (04:11)
Yes.
Jess (04:12)
Amazing, thank
you!
Ryan (04:14)
I'm Ryan, I am the younger brother and I am also a filmmaker. So both, well I got started as an actor through Richard and then that led me into filmmaking that was through the church and that just got me interested in behind the scenes and so I went to film school. That's where I learned how to become an assistant director and then yeah, that led me to wanting to start a film studio with my brother. Peace.
Heather (04:43)
Fantastic, amazing. Well, we have Ryan and Richard here from IFB Studios, also known as the Steampunk Bros. We will get into that. We'll unpack that a little bit later. But I would love to start off by just hearing from both of you, you know, growing up together, kind of what were the early days like for you? ⁓ You know, did you guys get along? Did you not? ⁓
Richard (05:01)
.
Heather (05:07)
You know, like,
did you have family connections? Did you know you wanted to be in production? Where did you guys grow up? Like, just kind of give us a little background.
Richard (05:16)
I grew up in the Rancho Cucamonga in actual city. I know like you guys didn't know the show or the movie Friday. But it's actual city and to group there, we always were kind of like introduced to it. I was actually introduced to it.
as a kid is what my mom would say. I was like a baby model. And then I think I did my first commercial at four. But I think it was through school that I developed the passion of acting. I just liked it for fun and wanted to do it and then brought Ryan along. And he was more, he actually was directing a lot of the the funny videos that we would do. I don't know if you remember those.
video recorders that you would like plug into your computer. They record up to like 20 minutes. Ryan will get like several of those and we'll record ourselves just like doing what was probably like TikTok now, way back then. And then I went to doing some more theater and then Ryan kind of was more in the television and film and then he got this passion of behind the scenes. And so yeah.
Ryan (06:32)
Yeah, I would say the same thing. think growing up, for the most part, we did get along. And so that's what led us to want to go into business. We grew up in a family business. so our parents were boarding care operators and service providers. So we owned ⁓ homes for the intellectually disabled.
Richard (06:33)
and learning.
Hmm
Ryan (06:53)
And so growing up with such a close knit, think that kind of sort of allowed us to want to further go into business ourselves together. ⁓ But we're like any other brother and sibling, so we do have our moments, as with everyone. And I think that's what's fun with business is that when it's great, it's great. If it's bad, for the most part, we have to leave it at the office. And so that's kind of sort of the main thing is just a reminder.
Richard (07:01)
You
Mm-hmm.
Ryan (07:20)
But yeah, at the same time, I think that that's what helps. And so when we meet people a lot of times, there are a lot of people that don't necessarily get along with their siblings or are not able to work with them. But we, thankfully, we try to stick to our own roles as much as possible. That helps, but yeah.
Richard (07:40)
I think that was one of the key things is we kind of learned our own roles. And like, I know like his strengths are and he knows what my strengths are. And like, I don't even really try to cross it. Like, I'm just like, you handle that. And so I think that helps a lot though.
Heather (07:44)
Mm-hmm.
Jess (07:54)
Knowing your strengths and knowing each other's strengths is such a powerful skill and tool to have. What are some of the strengths that you two kind of like, what are your or your like lanes, I guess, so to speak?
Heather (08:00)
Mm-hmm.
Ryan (08:08)
Yes.
Richard (08:08)
⁓
I would say Ryan, I guess the best way to describe it, Ryan would be like the face bringing people to the studio where I will hand them where the behind the scenes, the business part aspect of it.
Ryan (08:21)
Yes, so normally I'm the one that'll go ahead and do the grabbing and then Richard will do the tying up and the loose ends. And so that typically helps the most. And so, but at the same time, flexibility to I think some of our strengths are that we are able to both be in front at times. So that way, let's say one of us cannot be there, at least one of us can fill in and we're somewhat similar, I that helps.
Richard (08:29)
Okay.
Okay. ⁓
Yes.
Ryan (08:47)
Yeah.
⁓
Heather (08:49)
That's awesome.
Jess (08:49)
And what do
you guys do to keep boundaries? mean, I know that has to be such a challenge, like being siblings and also business owners. Are there any like tools or resources or tips or tricks that you suggest for trying to keep those boundaries and keep a happy, healthy relationship?
Ryan (09:09)
Some things that I've learned is,
keeping it if it is something that's business related, it's in a safe space. So that way, no one's taking anything personal. But at the same time, respecting one thing that I had to get better at ⁓ was having a cutoff time with work. So in certain time, we do need to stop talking about work.
For the first, I'd say the first year or two, that was really hard for me. It took a second for me to get adjusted to it. But once I did, it made sense that ⁓ just having the of there is a cutoff time, so respecting that, hey, know, ⁓ 10 p.m., you don't have to go into the room and bother each other, because we do live together as well. That's another added thing. ⁓ So respecting the of that. Also, just knowing each other. So for the first year or so, had
Richard (09:52)
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Ryan (10:02)
to get used to each other as business owners.
So just kind of sort of knowing how we can talk to each other and then just really trying to focus on that. are times that of course we slip up. But just really trying to stay focused on that and just seeing the future, the bigger picture. And I say this boundaries within us. Now within other people, we did have to learn to establish boundaries outside as well. And just with the general because especially once we started, it was a little bit overwhelming. And so just like the amount
of
people that were reaching out at one time, just curiosity. just establishing boundaries, not over-promising and under-delivering, making sure that we can realistically do certain things. so that was something that we, I think, ⁓ learned, at least for sure I know I did, was just to establish the boundaries of even certain things that our studio will offer, just making sure that we stay true to who we are and what we see our vision for the space.
Richard (10:55)
I'm
Okay.
Heather (11:01)
Yeah, that's so awesome. think, gosh, it's really as hard in this industry in particular. And then also your business partners, but your creative collaborators, of course your family. But it's so important to, I think, people in this business that you align with, whether they happen to be family, you guys got
lucky, or not.
Richard (11:25)
Okay. Okay.
Heather (11:27)
you have to find people that you can collaborate with and connect with and who are kind of on the same at the same level. But at the same time, you know, you may also be friends. You may also have like a personal relationship. And so you have to really set those boundaries.
Ryan (11:42)
That is definitely something that, especially like with just like family and friends just establishing that we learn that establishing
boundaries early on though saves in the long run. so ⁓ yeah, yeah. And we're still growing. So I think those are things that ⁓ we're learning as of like recently within like the past year or two. The first year was definitely like, getting used to everything, figuring it all out. And then then it's like, okay, no, we have to kind of sort of reel it in, in a sense. And so
Richard (11:51)
Okay.
Yeah.
Ryan (12:09)
in those healthy boundaries.
Richard (12:10)
Bye.
Heather (12:12)
What was the process like for you guys with starting the studio? Was there a certain something that happened? Was it like in school? Did you guys go to the same school? How did those ideas start to form? Was this something that had been kind of brewing for a long time? Or just how did the idea for this business come to be?
Richard (12:27)
I think
Ryan (12:35)
So, because I think as kids, Richard say, yeah.
Richard (12:35)
it was the kids, yeah. We always thought...
For some reason, I always thought it would happen probably like in like my 40s or 50s. Like, I just thought maybe I had to like act and work my way through Hollywood that way, make those connections. And then that happened. But then Ryan kind of like got inspired by going to another location right after graduating and stuff like that. Then the pandemic happened. We had time and then we were there.
Ryan (13:11)
Yeah.
Yeah, because like,
I think we both always thought that it would be later on, we would have to make, because we always saw it more so on the major scale. So we didn't necessarily know about warehouse studios. And so it was after graduating ⁓ and starting assistant directing, I was going to different studios and seeing studios ⁓ similar to the one that we own now, but more so standing sets. But ⁓ it was seeing someone ⁓
Richard (13:33)
That's it.
Thank you.
Ryan (13:43)
who looked like us, we met a gentleman and he just so happened to have studio. And so I remember the first time seeing it and then calling home and being like, my goodness, we just shot at this studio. And I'm like, this is such a cool, unique idea. so, and he just happened to be black owned and so we had never seen that. And that was something that representation does matter because that's what really inspired us to feel like we can, I think, at least just on that level.
and then we went to a few more. was assistant directing at a few more. And then I remember one shoot, I was talking with the owner and he was young. And he was like, yeah, I own this with me and my friend. He had a close friend and I was like, oh, you know what?
Richard (14:12)
So.
Ryan (14:26)
could do something like this. And I was like, who would do? And I was like, my brother. Because we get along. We both like the film industry. And we'd be able to really pour into it. And the way they had it set up was that
they would just do it in shifts. So someone would be there for one time. And the next person would come in. It was very similar. That one was more similar to what we have, just minus the .. wall. But that's what really inspired it. And then I brought Richard to set one day.
Richard (14:36)
I think. Thank
Ryan (14:52)
for lunch and then I walked around, was like, hey, you I think we can do this. And that was in 2019. And then COVID happened. And like Richard said, we had downtime
and so, and we had an at the time.
I was working on a Christmas film. so, ⁓ and what led to that was our sister had passed in 2018. And so come 2019, I just remember thinking like, you know what? ⁓ I need to like start doing something more ⁓ just to really make it worth its while just because at the time we were just really focused on just like filmmaking, just like the career,
Richard (15:07)
It's next. Okay.
Ryan (15:31)
but not necessarily on family. And so my thing was, I need to really put myself out there.
And so all of 2019, we're leading up. I'm like supposed to be writing this Christmas film. We're secure in financing, primarily self financing. So letting our family know well in advance that we want to put on a film. And we had learned a little bit about like stacking a film. So that was our plan was to kind of sort of stack it with the stars. And so that way it'd be sellable. And then the top of the year happened and we were supposed to
Richard (15:59)
I
Ryan (15:59)
be trying to shoot towards the spring. COVID happened and it's like, whoa, everything's shutting down.
And
there was no way I can let, we can pitch it to our family to shoot this film. Cause their thing is, well, what in the world are we, you know, how are we gonna get the return back? And so that was kind of sort of scrapped, but what inspired it was seeing Tyler Perry had shot.
Richard (16:13)
Okay.
Ryan (16:25)
I think like his series and everyone was like, my goodness, how did he film? And so what got us thinking was, well, he had his own space. And so he was able to quarantine and then they were able to shoot in their own space. And so that's what got us thinking, whoa, know, maybe we should look into getting our own space.
Richard (16:28)
Thank you. ⁓
Thank you.
Ryan (16:46)
And at the time with COVID happening, everything was of course shutting down. But the one thing that was still filming for the most part were music videos. And so I was getting calls for music videos. And I remember one, he was having a hard time finding a studio. For whatever reason, he was having a hard time finding a studio. And so I was like, you know what?
Richard (16:55)
Yeah.
Ryan (17:08)
I think we need to get into a studio. And so it took too long though. It took a really long time to find the space, took a few months to find the space. So we ended up not getting that, but that's what really ⁓ got it going was seeing Tyler Perry doing it. And then also having the demand of music videos. At least we saw an avenue. We didn't know if it was going to be. And of course at the time we're thinking like everyone else, COVID is just going to be a phase. It's going to be short. So our thing
Richard (17:16)
Okay. Thank
Ryan (17:37)
was let's start doing something productive and proactive while we have this downtime so that way when it's over, we're ready to go. And then, and then it continues. ⁓
Richard (17:47)
Okay.
Ryan (17:49)
But yeah, so that's kind of like the start.
Jess (17:52)
That is just so strategic, I think. I don't know if you know this, Los Angeles in Southern California was having a really, really big issue with not having enough studio spaces at that time, like pre-COVID. then COVID disrupted all industries. it's...
Richard (17:53)
you
Jess (18:10)
It's so cool looking back and seeing how you two were able to be like, okay, this is something that we can do. This is an industry or business that we want to start. And at the same time, whether you knew it or not, this was something that the film industry, the media industry really needed and still needs. There's still not enough studio spaces for people to go, especially...
Richard (18:32)
Okay.
Jess (18:34)
medium and smaller productions to be able to go and make the content that they want to make.
Ryan (18:40)
Thanks, thanks.
Heather (18:41)
Yeah, that's such a... I mean, thank you for sharing all of that. That's so interesting. I love what stuck out for me in your story was just how you just have to do the thing. You know, I think we can all... We've all had these ideas.
Richard (18:54)
Okay. Thank you.
Heather (18:55)
well, when I'm here or at some point in time, I will do this, but the timing is never going to be perfect. It's never going to be the right time. It's probably always going to feel scary in some way.
but you just have to take the risk and go, I think, before you're not going to feel ready. At least that's my motto is like, think you're just not going to feel ready. And
the more comfortable you get with just doing the thing, even though you don't feel ready for it, I think you're just going to propel yourself even further. But that's so cool. Yeah. Do the thing. Do the thing.
Jess (19:30)
We've been saying that a lot lately. Do the thing. We're gonna do the thing. We're doing the thing. We're doing the thing.
Richard (19:34)
Yep.
Ryan (19:35)
Absolutely, and we're all about
that. We're all about just going and taking the chance. We'll admit to taking the chance does it can take a journey, you know.
Richard (19:41)
Mm-hmm.
It could be, yeah.
Heather (19:47)
sure.
Ryan (19:48)
And so we want to be honest about that it is, but at the same time, most of it, I'd say like 80 to 90 % of it is like you're wowed because hey, you took the chance. And then also to see it growing is always beneficial too. ⁓ And I think too, because I recently started back in grad school because I just wanted to get more of a foundation in business. And my classes that I'm learning is that you have to
Richard (20:03)
and
Ryan (20:14)
know if you're OK with either having taken the risk and something going wrong or not taking the risk. And things going smoothly, but in the back of your head, you never know, hey, what would have happened? And so yeah, think just making sure that you know that distinction is very helpful.
Richard (20:31)
This.
Jess (20:32)
is a good thing.
Ryan (20:34)
Yes, yes, and that's what we're learning
Heather (20:35)
then
Ryan (20:37)
is that it's okay to fail and it's okay to test things out. A lot of the major companies, that's what they do is they test things out. Of course, the hard thing about being a small business is having the capital to be testing things out.
Richard (20:47)
Thanks.
Ryan (20:50)
It's pricey, but at
the same time, that's what causes you to get strategic. so that's something that we've had to do is kind of sort of get strategic in our thinking, ⁓ also kind of sort of thinking outside of the box, even though our studio is legit a box. We're thinking outside the box and ⁓ kind of sort of coming up with unique ways to kind of sort of offer a service in this industry and sort of carve out a niche in this industry.
Richard (21:00)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Heather (21:17)
Yeah, that's
Jess (21:18)
Speaking of
thinking out of the box, I'm just wondering if you can tell us a little bit about your studio and the steampunk bros and how you set yourselves apart from the rest of the folks in this industry.
Ryan (21:20)
you
Heather (21:32)
Yeah.
Richard (21:33)
I let Ryan handle the Steampunk part because he's the one kind of he's more behind it. I didn't know what it was before.
Ryan (21:37)
Shit!
Yes.
So what happened was as a kid, I used to love the movie Wild Wild West with Will Smith. And so I used to love seeing like the gadgets like his jacket that would have the gun pop out. Also, I believe it's Dr. Loveless with the spider legs and everything. And so I was just very, very intrigued by that and that style of wardrobe and costume. so for years, I've always wanted to wear stuff like that, but I never had a real
Richard (21:58)
Thank you.
Ryan (22:09)
or a place to wear it. And so oddly enough, which is so strange, but like I've always wanted to have this kind of hat or like we normally will have our gloves and stuff like that, ⁓ having the armor on just because it was just something fun. And so ⁓ once we launched the studio, we had shot a really, really like high-end commercial just to advertise what we shot there. And so one of the segments, and we did like different segments in like different
Richard (22:22)
So.
It is.
Ryan (22:35)
worlds, guess you would say. And so one of them was a steampunk world. so that was the main role that we had to have. So was like we had a team and with the costume designer and the production designer, we're like, anything else we can have fun with, but this we have to have.
Richard (22:49)
Okay.
Ryan (22:52)
And that's because I was like, want to just test out wearing the steampunk. And so I remember the first day that our costume designer brought the arm out. We were like, my goodness. She nailed it to the tee. ⁓
Richard (23:03)
Mm-hmm.
Ryan (23:05)
And then once we released the commercial, that seemed to be like the one segment that really stuck out to people. And so we're like, OK, let's it. We're like, OK, well, since people like it, we like it. And Richard had kind of sort of gotten on board with it. So I was like, well, let's keep that going. And then through that, we learned that there is a huge community, a huge steampunk community. And so that's where ⁓ we're like, let's lean towards that community, because there are other people that love it.
Richard (23:16)
Okay.
Ryan (23:33)
as much as us. And so that's kind of sort of what got us into it. And then the reason why we wear our hats now pretty much every day that we're in the studio is just to distinguish ourselves. So one of our strengths, I think, with the studio is we want to create an environment, a fun, a ... ... environment when you enter. So that way we want to take it up a notch while you're filming, have a little more fun. So that way it's almost like a themed attraction. And so we started wearing the hats.
Richard (23:33)
Thank you.
Thank you. ⁓
Okay. Okay.
Ryan (24:03)
through that and then also too because we're both young and so being young and also too African-American being black that not everyone necessarily knows when you who's necessarily in charge we're
there and so we had experienced that a couple times and Richard's really good at it Richard has no problem with walking away me I'm such a I'm like ⁓ you need me to move some stuff like ⁓
Richard (24:27)
Okay. ⁓
Ryan (24:28)
We were total
PAs, he had no idea. But shortly after that, the next day, we went and put our hats on. And so ever since then, that has helped distinguish. So when we're walking around the studio, not only does it help create a fun environment, but also it helps distinguish who's in charge. So if you need anything, you know who to go to. Also too, if you're looking for, like people want tours and stuff like that. We're all about giving that. And so it works as a twofold.
Richard (24:35)
.
Okay. Okay.
Ryan (24:58)
as to help distinguish us, but also help create a fun environment with us.
Richard (24:59)
Thank
Heather (25:03)
That's so cool.
Richard (25:03)
And we used to, we
used to dress up to in the costumes to do the tours, but it just gets too hot now.
Ryan (25:07)
Yes.
Yes.
We were, when we started out, oh my goodness, the first year, those people got it good, because they were in full costume, full bow tie, full presentation, sweating galore. So now we kind of dial back more, just so, because also too, it would stun people too. They're like, oh my goodness, it's a lot to handle at one time. And so they're like, oh, whoa, whoa. But now a little bit more, just like a little more tasteful, but just a little tea.
Richard (25:24)
So.
Thank
Ryan (25:41)
And so eventually we would love to of course expand into doing like more like merchandise and stuff like that. So that way we can really feed the steampunk community. And that's where the steampunk bros though came involved. And so that's kind of become our signature branding. So that way anytime you see us or anytime you see something with IFB, we want you all not only to think of brothers and family, but also to think of steampunk. And so, and we've been educating a lot of people on it.
Richard (25:45)
Mm-hmm.
Good morning.
Ryan (26:09)
There are people of all ages that know about it and so it's
a really cool thing.
Heather (26:15)
That's fantastic. There's so much to unpack in what you guys just talked about. But I think I want to just highlight and kind of chat bit more about developing a personal brand or a component to your brand because there's so many things happening in our industry. But I know for certain, there are people that are like, yeah, those steampunk guys, those brothers, let's go to their studio. You just have to find ways to.
Richard (26:39)
Okay.
Heather (26:44)
make yourself stand apart and also, you know, you guys are subtly kind of reinforcing the type of environment that people are going to come into when they work with you all at, you know, your studio. So that is so awesome. And I think so much that
all types of people in this industry can take away whether they own a business. But I think I always try to tell people like, hey, if you're a freelancer, you are a business like you and yourself for a business, you have to market yourself because you're always marketing yourself to
Richard (26:59)
Okay. Okay.
Ryan (27:09)
Yeah.
Heather (27:11)
get a job as a freelancer. But the other thing that really stood out for me was, you know, you guys having experiences where maybe people just because of certain norms, they didn't expect you to be owners of the studio, they didn't expect that.
And I know Jess and I have certainly experienced things like that on set where, you know, people want to know if I'm the makeup artist or something. Like, there's just like these assumptions where people
Richard (27:33)
Thank
Heather (27:38)
And there's nothing bad about being the makeup artist, but it's just like, and that's the assumption. So I think you guys really taking your brand and making it fun, but also kind of owning and being strong and powerful and being like, yeah, we do run this studio. We are leaders in this space, I think is really cool. Yeah, I don't know.
Ryan (27:39)
church.
Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah, we definitely agree with just having to kind of sort of stand out because the market might be an oversaturated market or some might think. And so just finding ways so that way people can kind of sort of remember you. think it's definitely very important.
Richard (28:00)
Here you are, kid.
.
Do we sometimes wear the hats outside of the studio too? So people have seen us out and about the restaurants and so every once in a while they'll be like, I've seen you before. We're like, you might have, you know.
Jess (28:21)
I know... go ahead.
Ryan (28:25)
Yes!
Yes. Yes.
Heather (28:34)
Well, in this
town, it's like a conversation, but like you can say, well, let me tell you why we're wearing this because, you know, yeah.
Richard (28:38)
I'm going to to...
Ryan (28:38)
Yes.
What about this video? Yes. Good.
Richard (28:41)
Yes.
Ryan (28:42)
That's definitely
some of the fun marketing that we do. So on the weekends, don't be surprised if you run into us at a restaurant. Because we're like, what the heck? then people are like, what in the world's going on here? But a lot of times it sparks joy. And so that's what we also want to do is just kind of sort of bring some light into the industry and as well as into the world. seeing the smiles, a lot of times people are smiling. They'll go from either the shock of like, what? And then, wow.
Richard (28:47)
You
Thanks. ⁓
Ryan (29:07)
And so, and then like you said too, it works as a way to a calling card. So, like, hey, what's the hat, what are the hats about? And then that leads us to, our studio. So yeah.
Richard (29:18)
Again.
Jess (29:20)
I know we talked previously about accessibility being an important thing, part of your studio as well. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Heather (29:20)
That's awesome.
Ryan (29:29)
Yes, yes. So that's something that Richard is currently developing more, because we want to provide a space that's legit for everybody. And so we thought about tying in Richard's expertise. Yes.
Richard (29:41)
Yes,
especially like working in the, I guess you should say the psychology realm as a behavioral therapist. There's a lot of times I see like a lot of...
I'm able to kind of see on set, even some people in production, I could tell, okay, maybe they might be on the spectrum and, you know, certain things, like little things that can maybe even speed up the process, such as just earphones or just having just something just to wrap their hand on or just little things, just maybe having this area, a little bean bag or something just to accommodate anybody in any aspect. That's a thing and then like,
Ryan, he's kind of been bringing more to my attention because he's kind of noticing it to himself and it's even helping him become more patient to like on set and stuff. ⁓
Ryan (30:35)
Yes, like as an assistant director
being on set, just noticing ⁓ you have to work with everyone. And so that's something that's not always communicated. And I think just being aware and especially for a while, I wasn't necessarily utilizing that side of Richard to the to our benefit in that sense, but recognizing that, hey, like, no, everyone has a different way of thinking. so and also to prompting ways of prompting, but also having different tools
Richard (30:44)
Mm-hmm.
Ryan (31:03)
such as fidget things and stuff like that, can lead to more productivity because if they're able to get that release out, they're able to continue on working. so that's something that we are incorporating more into our studio. So hopefully within like the next month or so, we'll be fully, fully accessible in that realm, but just incorporating new fun things so that way when you come to film, you'll have access to our lovely, either if you wanna use your director's
Richard (31:17)
I can.
That's it.
Thank
Ryan (31:29)
or if you want to sit in something fun like a bean bag or something like that.
Richard (31:32)
Okay.
⁓
Ryan (31:32)
will
have that available for you. So that way it's legit accessible for everyone. Also to our events. So we're planning to do more events, ⁓ more mental health events, as well as events with the intellectually disabled and just honestly everyone. We've had a recent event and there were, ⁓ we noticed that we have wheelchair accessibility and that is something that we're very proud of. So to be able to offer an event
Richard (31:54)
Yes.
Ryan (31:58)
that you can just legit come right on in and it can house everyone with ease. And so I think that's our focus now is really just tying more into being accessible space for all.
Richard (32:11)
Yes, and even besides and also along with that, like having different things that are not just solely like television and film related, like we're now even having some acting classes here and things, because I've noticed that even though Hollywood's big, there's a lot of vast majority of people who have never been in the studio.
ever. And so giving them the opportunity to at least step foot in, you know, have that moment. And we always try to have like, welcoming music going on or we say, Hey, you know, you can play the playlist yourself. You know, we have a phone access for everybody to connect to Bluetooth and everything.
Ryan (32:51)
Yeah.
Heather (32:52)
That's so cool.
Ryan (32:52)
And that's something
too, that Richard brought up too was us bringing, doing events because, because of the strike and everything like that, we had to, because everything was going fine up into the strike and the next thing you the strike happens. And that made us have to think, well, what do we do? And that caused us to pivot. And so I'm learning that, you know, we, we have space. so prior to that, we were only targeting, let's say just the film community, but there was the whole music industry that, hey,
they need music videos. Even though we initially got started wanting to cater to music videos, we had never really reached out. And so the strike caused us to reach out to A &R, which we had never done before. Getting comfortable in different studios, seeing if they need space, as well as events. So opening up to everything from workshops, film workshops. We started doing acting classes. We've had writers workshops. And so we're trying to ⁓
Richard (33:29)
That's the reason.
Perpetual thoughts.
Ryan (33:49)
really cultivate something that's, yeah, really great. Yes. We have our first, yes, concerts, our first planning. Yes.
Richard (33:49)
birthday parties as well and concerts. And now we're to be having a wedding here in March.
Jess (34:03)
my gosh, that's so cool.
Richard (34:03)
Peace.
Heather (34:05)
Are they from
the film industry? are they, do they both work in film or did they just want to have their wedding at a studio?
Richard (34:11)
It was one of my good friends, actually comes to like every film festival and helps out and so she was looking to have it somewhere else but then like we were all in a Zoom meeting and they're like, what are we doing wasting time? Why don't we just like have it here at the studio? I'm like, that is something I want to challenge doing. ⁓
Ryan (34:28)
Yes. Yes.
Heather (34:31)
Gosh, that's so cool.
I love that.
Ryan (34:34)
And so, yes, if anyone's looking for that, that's definitely something that we've been open to just because similar to film events and stuff like that, they also transform a space and so they need to be able to transform. And so we saw a good parallel with that and we're able to get a similar feeling. because it's always good to see the productions. You never know what they're going to come and create. And similar to events, you never know what the event is going to be. And some of the workshops we've
Richard (34:40)
Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Ryan (35:04)
We will sometimes also partake, like Richard's, take partake in the acting workshops. And so people are always surprised to know that not only do we run the studio, but we also like to get involved sometimes too, if you're willing to allow us to. But like, yeah, being involved in like workshops or if someone's having a birthday party, if they're okay, we don't mind doing a little dance in the dance floor with you and then we'll go back upstairs. yeah.
Heather (35:28)
That's
fantastic. I love just how innovative both of you are in the ways in which you're bringing in different parts of the community in different ways. And I think there's so much to be said for, people have to see it. People have to...
Richard (35:42)
Thank you.
Heather (35:51)
experience it or see it, know, they are not going to immediately not everyone is going to say, maybe the studio could be an event space. But you know, it's you guys putting that forth to kind of help people see that vision for what it could be. But I really am, you know, so excited to hear you guys talk about that inclusive aspect, specifically for making set feel like a
Richard (36:09)
So.
Heather (36:16)
safer space or just like a more comfortable space.
Richard (36:18)
All. ⁓
Heather (36:20)
I think we often can forget how it could, being on set could be very prohibitive to some people. You know, there's a lot of high tension, there's a lot of activity, it could be very loud or sometimes very quiet. There's just a lot of stimulation on a set. It may not always be accessible in the way that it should be.
Richard (36:22)
Brain.
Heather (36:42)
And so it's great that you guys are starting that conversation and making it feel just a little bit easier in some ways, because it doesn't need to be so hard and stressful. think we need to, we've talked about this before, Jess and I have, it doesn't need to be like this, you know, it really doesn't, but amazing that you guys are really starting that conversation and bringing that into the fold for sure.
Richard (36:47)
Thank
Right.
Ryan (36:55)
Yeah.
Richard (36:56)
Congratulations.
presentation.
Jess (37:05)
Yeah, I think that's so cool. I,
in a previous life, I did a lot of training with folks that were on the spectrum in studios bases. And there's a lot that you may not realize that, you know, isn't that. That is set up in a way like Heather saying that is overstimulating or, you know, may not be conducive to everybody's strengths. so again, going back to the beginning of our conversation, just talking about strengths and learning about strengths and also how to overcome.
Richard (37:09)
That's it. ⁓
Jess (37:34)
that may not be the most suitable for you or your colleague and kind of figuring out ways to make things more comfortable and safer and also more pleasant. You know, I think that's, it's so important what you both are doing.
Ryan (37:49)
Thank you. Thank you.
Richard (37:49)
Thank you.
Jess (37:50)
Yeah.
Ryan (37:51)
Yeah, we definitely, part of the reason why we started the studio was because we wanted to create a safe space for everyone. so, that when you come in,
you feel like you're at home and we really want to be customer focused and driven on that and just making sure that we're offering what the customer wants. so, but also to what we feel like the industry kind of sort of needs. Cause like you said, it doesn't have to be that hard. And I know as an assistant director, I had to get that in my
Richard (38:02)
Okay.
Ryan (38:18)
And so and what really did I kid you not was ⁓ the sound department because and I never paid attention that They have their headphones in and so Not only when I have to elevate my voice It's also elevated in their ears. And so for him it was a bit over stimulating and so And it took a second at first I was like, why is he even bringing it to my attention that hey like it's a little bit
Richard (38:37)
I'm sorry.
Ryan (38:43)
of yelling happening and I can't handle the yelling. And I'm like, dude, there's like 60 to 70 people in this room. I don't know how
else to get it across. But that got me to thinking, no, there's got to be other techniques that I need to apply. And so that way, it's not an abusive situation. so just because I was like, it's not fun for him and it's not fun for anyone else in that sense. So just thinking about like, hey, different approaches. And that's what really kind of sort of led me into,
Richard (38:56)
Okay.
.
Ryan (39:13)
It's not only just the tone on set, but also too, sitting. Some people get bored really fast. so it's like, hey, if there's little things on set that they can utilize with their time that's not interrupting set, I think it's definitely beneficial because we want people to feel good. And when people feel good, better work is going to happen. They're going to give their best. And so that's what we want. And we want the productions that come into our studio, we want them to be able to provide their best
Richard (39:29)
Okay.
Ryan (39:39)
work as well and so yeah that's kind of definitely why we're leaning more towards accessibility for all.
Richard (39:47)
Mm-hmm.
Heather (39:48)
amazing. We
really need to, gosh, it's like, I think there's so many things that are done and people are like, this is the way we've always done it. And so that's why we, that's why we do it this way, you know, and it's challenging that and being, you know, fresh voices in the space and being vocal about things and saying, Hey, no, we don't have to do it that way. It's really cool and exciting. And it is what excites me about the future of our industry. But ⁓ I also want to know from both of you.
Richard (39:51)
I can see.
Ryan (39:56)
Yes.
Richard (39:56)
I don't
know.
all the people practice.
Mm-hmm.
Heather (40:17)
You're both multi-hyphenates. You co-own this creative business together. Ryan, you're a filmmaker. Richard, you're an actor. Ryan, you're going back to school for your master's. How do you guys balance it? What is your structure? What's your day-to-day look like? How do you guys handle it?
Richard (40:25)
Thank you.
⁓
I'm really
good at it where I kind of write, think, my mom are starting to kind of get, like I'll hint ahead that I'm gonna take a trip to balance and get time away. So, or I'll just like, and then like, I don't know, because I'll start to feel like my body and stuff and I'll know, okay, know, maybe this weekend I am not going, sometimes I'll even come to the studio all day, turn my phone off so I don't be bothered by anyone.
and just relax, that kind of thing. Or go to the beach or something, yeah, traveling is my balance every few, every thing every few months.
Ryan (41:19)
Yes.
And I'd say for me, I've been getting better at having a better balance. definitely initially was the one that was just kind of sort of taking on a lot. I like to be active and so I'm definitely the person that when I go to bed, I am ready for bed. My body is like, get in there now. So, but what I've been doing, I'd say for the past like, honestly for the past like two years, the first two years were a lot, the past two years I've been hiking more.
Richard (41:30)
It's
Ryan (41:51)
So like legit, it's a little warm right now, but when the weather is doing me right, if we have downtime at the studio or at school or something like that, then I'll just go hiking like in the morning. I'm just kind of sort of getting out, touching nature. We have a little Boston Terrier and he's very active. If anyone has one, are rambunctious, they are a lot. And so what I found was getting him out kind of sort of helps tire him
I'm
out in a sense of going walking, but at the same time, it's good just to get out and be in peace. We're very spiritual too, so that's very much where I'm able to kind of have that time, alone time. And I think that's kind of sort of where it's been more beneficial for me. It's just kind of sort of getting out, because sometimes I don't necessarily make time to be able to, let's say, leave or anything like that, but I'm like, you know what? Hey, there's a park nearby. I can at least go to the park really fast.
Richard (42:24)
Yeah. Yeah. ⁓
Ryan (42:46)
I'm getting older, it feels so good to be out and if you catch a good breeze, ugh, you
know. But yes, I would say that. But kind of sort of, I do say anyone that is doing anything, honestly if you're working in general, I think it is important to have ⁓ that work-life balance.
Heather (43:02)
Mm-hmm.
Ryan (43:03)
And also to doing the things that you feel good, little hobbies too. I'm learning too that those little hobbies can turn into bigger things. So kind of sort of getting in touch with what you love in that sense is very helpful. But yeah.
Heather (43:17)
Yeah,
that's so cool.
Richard (43:18)
Ryan used to always
go to the gym. mean, Ryan used always go to get a massage every Monday too. That was his.
Ryan (43:24)
What's good about that? Yes,
yes, yes. That was because of the time I was doing a lot and so juggling and I will encourage that to you because I was juggling and then I was like, why is my back? And then standing on set, standing in those long hours on set, it's vicious. so, and then at the studio with it being just the two of us, we do a lot of the lifting and we are very much the hands on type of founders.
So it can be a little bit of wear and tear on our body. And so that's what I hadn't been paying attention to. And and something as simple as doing a stretch. I hadn't stretched in probably 10 to 15 years. Like something as simple as like sitting on the ground and stretching. And so for the past year as well, I've been doing that. So even on set, people will be looking at me like, what are you doing? Or they've gotten used to me now. I'm definitely on the floor.
Richard (44:03)
So good.
Ryan (44:24)
and a heartbeat and I'm just like, let me just stretch it out. And then go into the massage, those deep tissues. I'm like, just walk, do whatever you need. And so that and.
Heather (44:36)
Taking those little
moments, I think is so important because it can feel like a small thing and it's, you really have to advocate for yourself or with yourself and be like, no, no, no, we need to just take this minute right now. Everybody else can wait, you know, three minutes while you just pace yourself and just make sure you don't forget about yourself is super, super important.
Ryan (44:40)
Yes.
I need.
Absolutely.
Heather (45:00)
Yeah,
well, that kind of ties into my question, what was going to be, you know, is there a lesson, a belief or a mindset you've kind of learned up into this point that you would want to share with everyone?
Richard (45:17)
I will say one...
think we have learned, don't be afraid to evolve and continue to evolve. Because even with this business, you never know if things could shift. like we were saying earlier, we went from being strictly television and film, and now we're opening to different avenues. And you find out, maybe I actually like doing this. Or maybe the studio is much better in this direction than maybe this direction.
Just in other areas in your life, just don't be afraid to evolve and be the better version of yourself that you were before.
Ryan (45:55)
Thanks.
Yes, I would say something similar to don't be afraid to evolve and also go for it. So I really I would say for like the past four years, even though it's been a roller coaster, like so much we realized, like, had we not gone for this opportunity, so much of what we've done would have never happened. The people that we've met, so you never know what the journey will lead. So I would say if you're thinking of something, just do it.
Richard (46:02)
Mm-hmm.
Thank
Thank you.
Ryan (46:24)
And also too, if you can work with your family, try to do that as well. Just because it does help having that support and having someone that really can back you, especially when you're down. It definitely helps as well as financially too. Sometimes you might have to lean on your family. And so if you can at least just work on that relationship, would say is very beneficial and very, yeah, something to just keep in mind.
Richard (46:26)
Thank
Mm-hmm.
Good
luck.
Ryan (46:54)
people know.
Heather (46:58)
Fantastic. Those are both really great. And I think you guys talked about them so much. you know, they're just so important. I think it's something that people talk about a lot, like, just go for it or do the thing. But easier said than done, for
Richard (47:04)
It's not that.
Jess (47:16)
It
Ryan (47:16)
Yes.
Richard (47:16)
There are some times where you're like, can I back out now? But it's like, no. Because you think about why I invested so much, but it's like, ooh, I want to. Yes.
Ryan (47:25)
Yes.
Heather (47:27)
We all have those moments, think. We're Like, ugh.
Ryan (47:29)
Yes. did get myself into?
Richard (47:30)
What did I do exactly?
Ryan (47:31)
Yes. Yes. And that turning point, and I think that's kind of sort of the moment where just letting everyone know that it does happen. Like you said, it happens. You're going to experience it. And for us, our main thing is just kind of sort of just kind of go for it. Look, just.
No looking back, I've heard that, I've heard people say that too, but just no looking back. We look at it as we're in it, we just gotta ride out the wave. ⁓ So yeah, no looking back and just yeah, going forward in that sense.
Richard (47:57)
mm-hmm
Heather (48:03)
Amazing. Well, I would love to know what's next for you guys. You have some, you know, some stuff, exciting stuff coming up. Where can people get in touch with you, follow you, check out the studio, all the things.
Richard (48:06)
Yes.
Ryan (48:15)
Yes. ⁓
So you can definitely check us out on our website, ifbstudios.com but also on our Instagram at ifbstudios That's where we'll post most of our events. We've got some really funny events coming up. We have a Halloween event that's going to be happening in October. And that'll be happening October
25th. That'll be fun. It's kind like a walkthrough attraction. And we're planning to partner up with our, there's a brewery that's actually our neighbor. We say,
Richard (48:35)
It.
Ryan (48:44)
share the same
parking lot. And so we're partnering up with them for this event. It'll be super fun. There'll be a beer garden over there so that way can grab some beers, hang out, and then come over to our studio and get scared. And then also we have a Christmas, it'll be our fifth anniversary, our Christmas walkthrough attraction. And for that, we've been also doing, it's a, not only is it a walkthrough attraction, but it's a toy drive. So if you bring a toy, you get free admission and that'll be happening in December. And then,
Richard (49:00)
Yes.
Ryan (49:12)
Our big, big event is our film festival that is going to be happening in March. We're going to start advertising really soon and taking submissions. This not only will be our fifth film festival, but it's going to be coinciding
with our fifth year anniversary of business. So we're planning to do something very special. And each year, for anyone that's interested, the winners receive free studio time. So if you've got a short film or a music video of any genre, we're not really picking on genre.
Richard (49:30)
huh.
Ryan (49:42)
The time constraints which will be on there, but it's like 30 minutes for the short film five minutes for the music video If you submit it, you've got a good chance to Lend some free studio time, but also to it's a great way to network
We've had a lot of people come meet people and then now they're working together on films We try to bring in good ⁓ experts from the field so that way there's at least good advice And then also to that way for the filmmakers. There's gonna be good eyes and good of you
Richard (49:58)
Thank you. So, thank you.
Ryan (50:10)
viewership of your your magics or it's definitely a fun time and if you are not only if you're a filmmaker if you are an artist because we're all about
Ever since the strike now we want to tie into the music industry as well. So if you're an artist as well, we have live performers there and we're all about if you have new music, you definitely need to perform it. Definitely reach out if you're interested in performing or we'll try to look you up. I'm definitely the one that's on social media scrolling and see who's performing and who's got new music. But that way the festival is more so like an art festival. So it's a film festival.
Richard (50:48)
Mm-hmm.
Ryan (50:48)
you're an artist is definitely something that you should come out to. And yeah, be involved. You'll definitely see us in our steampunk gear. Each year we do like a theme. And yeah, it'll be a fun time.
Richard (50:50)
Yes.
Heather (51:02)
That's
fantastic. Yeah.
Ryan (51:03)
Yes,
also do. see we're working on some in house content too. So hopefully soon that will be coming out. We're going to be tying more of the mental health in the studio. And so our mother who is an LMFT, she's really kind of sort of open our eyes to some like people, not only are people dealing with stressors on set, but also stressors at home. And so just kind of sort of wanting to tie into that overall arc of, hey, making sure that you're
100 and so we're gonna be having some mental health workshops I really soon and those would be we're working to make those very interactive so that way you'll come in and you'll learn how to be good with your spouse in a sense and like some fun tips with your spouse but then also
Richard (51:34)
Working.
Ryan (51:48)
if you're in a good space with your spouse you'll be in a good space on set you know or if you're good family you'll be in a better space on set so just wanted to tie that in so that'll be happening really really soon as well
Richard (51:48)
What?
Ryan (51:59)
Thank
Heather (52:00)
That's
amazing. Such an important skill for producers or anyone who's a leader on set to take those types of classes to just get more informed and how can they be better on set. think to me being on set is like a pressure cooker. I've said this before. But you can learn those skills and have on set so you don't bring that stuff from set home and you don't take home your set and you can just be better supportive for your casting crew, I think that's incredible. What you guys are doing?
Richard (52:02)
important.
Evening.
Ryan (52:15)
You
Heather (52:29)
so many awesome things to, you know, support our community in production and film and entertainment. Thank you guys for all you do and thanks for being on the pod today.
Richard (52:39)
Thank you. was a pleasure. was a pleasure.
Ryan (52:39)
Thank you so much for having us. Yes,
we're super pleased and congratulations again. We're doing wonderful and so we can't wait to hear so many more episodes and we'll be definitely checking out.
Richard (52:45)
Yes. ⁓
Jess (52:54)
Thank
you so much.
Heather (52:55)
Thanks guys!
Richard (52:55)
Thank
you.
Ryan (52:56)
Take care, take
Jess (52:58)
Alright, that's the show for today, but before we switch back, we want to remind you...
Heather (53:02)
Subscribe to the pod you guys you got to subscribe It's very very important that you subscribe to the pod on whatever platform you get your podcast also follow us on social or kind of funny sometimes and We put some cool stuff on there also get on the mailing list Anything new exciting fresh coming out you're want to be on the mailing list so you can get notified of that and It does Yeah
Jess (53:27)
Yeah, it helps us. It helps us. It helps us help you. It helps us help
you. So do it. Awesome. Thanks for tuning in. See you next time.
Heather (53:31)
Yeah. Awesome.
Thanks guys.
Thanks for listening to Switching Two hosted and edited by Heather Kate Duncan and Jess Boyer. Original music by Topflow courtesy of the Pixabay Royalty Free Music Library. Recorded on location in Los Angeles, California. Follow us on social at SwitchingTwoPod. Show notes and transcripts can be found at SwitchingTwoPod.com.
